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Today, ESPN tennis analysts Chrissie Evert and Patrick McEnroe spoke with media about the French Open, which starts Sunday, May 25, on ESPN2 and ESPN3.
Topics on the call included:
- McEnroe on top men fending off rising players: “(This year) they’ve been threatened a lot more often… (the younger players are) knocking at the door, but they haven’t broken through yet in the big occasions, except for Stan…they’re closing the gap but they still got a ways to go.”
- Evert on heavy favorite Serena Williams’ improved play on clay: “She’s learned to play on the clay a lot better from (her coach) Patrick (Mouratoglou). She’s improved her defense skills. She’s always had the offense skills. She’s more fit. She’s moving better. She is patient with herself. She doesn’t have to go for the winner on the fourth shot. She can wait eight or nine shots and go for the opening. She’s more intelligent and thinking more clearly on the clay than she ever has.”
- McEnroe added: “I never thought I’d say this. I think clay might actually be Serena’s best surface now. As great as she is on every other surface, obviously in her career she’s certainly been better on the faster courts, but it’s almost like she’s less susceptible to upset on clay now because she’s so consistent, steady.”
- Evert is impressed by the recent play of 2008 French Open champ Ana Ivanovic, ranked No. 12 (but No. 8 in 2014-to-date standings): “I’m so impressed with how she’s playing….She seems to have gotten her serve together. Her serve is winning some free points. She’s really improved that. The backhand has improved. The confidence. She’s a big hitter…she could be top four if she continues her run.”
- Asked for players outside the top 20 who could reach the semis: Evert— Madison Keys and no male. McEnroe— Caroline Garcia; Nicolas Almagro, Roberto Batista Agut or Dominic Thiem.
- Evert on why Americans struggle on clay: “The players that learned to play tennis on clay, myself and Martina Navratilova, Martina Hingis, Federer, Djokovic, I mean, Nadal, a lot of the players started on clay and excelled on clay at a young age. And from there, branched out, made some adjustments and learned how to play on a faster court. I think that’s easier to do than the other way around where you’re primarily a power player. That’s why it was tough for like a Pete Sampras to win the French.”
- McEnroe on what it takes to succeed on clay: “I think obviously movement is key. What I like to call shot tolerance, which is understanding what shot to hit at the right time. Clay just forces you to make better decisions more often. Quite honestly, you need to hit more balls into the court to win points….The clay teaches you itself how to play and how to construct points. As Chrissie said, the more you play on it, and the earlier you play on it, the more you can develop those skills. “
- McEnroe on which American athletes he would have loved to see play tennis: “It’s funny, because when people say that, they say, ‘Imagine if Michael Jordan had taken up tennis!’ Well, Michael is a little bit too tall….Some would say LeBron James. Actually he’s too big. I would take somebody who was a great point guard, somebody like Dwyane Wade. Who is the guy from Seattle, Richard Sherman, like a defensive back, extremely mobile.”
Q. My question is junior tennis related, Chrissie. What significance do you think there is for a junior in winning or competing in a junior slam? To what extent does this herald success in the future? To what extent is it a crapshoot? What are the pressures that might come with that, that either make a junior stronger or kind of freak them out?
EVERT: I think just from my experience, I didn’t play any of the junior slams because I was already in the regular slams. But for me, winning national tournaments in America was huge because winning gets to be a habit. Once you have that experience of beating girls your own age, which that’s where the pressure is to me. My pressure was beating Maria Redondo and Patti Hogan, all the top players in the 18 Nationals, then going on and playing older women who had all the pressure and I had no pressure. It was an easier transition. I think it helps tremendously to be able to be No. 1 in your age division or to win national championships. To win a junior Grand Slam, I think it’s tremendous. Now, in saying that, we didn’t have the press back in those days. I think there’s a lot more intensity and limelight if you win, a lot more expectations from the press and the public nowadays. That component is much more intense. I could quietly go on into the women’s and start beating the top women.
Q. It looks like there’s a changing of the guard slowly in men’s and women’s tennis. Wawrinka winning the Australian, guys like Nishikori and Dimitrov starting to live up to some potential, but the old guys aren’t giving up. Same could be said with Serena. Could you talk about that.
McENROE: Well, I think there’s definitely some signs that the outsiders, the contenders, are more than just pretenders at this point. That being said, if you go down the list of who has won not only the majors, but the Masters events, at least on the men’s side, it’s pretty much the same, the same two guys. Federer has had a darn good first half of the year as well. But Nadal and Djokovic are the two players to beat clearly.
That being said, even if you look at their results this year on the clay, they’ve been threatened a lot more often. Obviously they’ve still been able to win. Nadal, at least for him, has had a relatively unsuccessful clay court season only winning one big event, getting to the finals of another. If you look at their results match in, match out, they’re certainly getting threatened a lot more.
Guys like you said, Wawrinka, Nishikori, Ferrer beating Nadal, Almagro beat Nadal, Berdych, players like that are making a little more noise. Dimitrov. Raonic had a great tournament last week. Let’s put it this way: they’re knocking at the door but they haven’t broken through yet in the big occasions, except for Stan. I think in a nutshell certainly the other players on the men’s side have to feel like they’re closing the gap but they still got a ways to go.
EVERT: I agree. I think there’s such a tremendous pool of talent when I look on the men’s side. The way that Andy Murray played last week, the way that Raonic played last week, Nishikori all year, Dimitrov, the way he’s come on, I think it’s incredible. But I agree with Patrick. I think when you look at the top two, Nadal and Djokovic, they’re not letting anybody in. They’re not opening the door yet. But in two years’ time I think it’s going to be a different complexion.
I look at the women and I see the same thing. I see Serena dominating. She’s still dominating. She gets injured, a few losses, but still the dominant player. But you have a rich pool between Li Na, Halep, Maria Sharapova, Ivanovic, Sloane is in a little bit of a slump right now. You can say the same. There’s the top two in the men and the top two in the women that are fending everybody off so far.
Q. Patrick, you mentioned Nadal, that he didn’t have a successful clay season. Usually he wins three of these events. Now he’s not the overall favorite going into the French that he usually is. Why do you think that is? I’m sure it’s a minor thing, but what is different this spring with him?
McENROE: I just think he put so much energy into what he did last year, physical, maybe more importantly mental energy, from the time he came back when he obviously exceeded everybody’s expectations with how dominant he was not only on clay, which didn’t surprise a lot of us, but on hard courts. Through the US Open, he was just unbelievable. He was invincible. Then he had what I think was a fairly natural letdown at the end of last year. I think quite frankly it’s carried into this year a little bit. He was playing awfully well in Australia before he lost in the final. So that was sort of another step slightly back because it obviously put him off the practice courts for probably a solid month. I think he’s trying to find his sea legs a little bit. He’s still the favorite to win the French, but it’s closer than it’s ever been between him and Djokovic. Djokovic has gotten him multiple times since last year’s US Open final. He’s put himself into really good form. I think one of the important things for Nadal in Rome was he won a couple of matches back-to-back where he was pushed to the limit physically. I think that gives him a lot of confidence. He’s never been the kind of player that can just play a couple of matches and put it on autopilot. He needs to play a lot, win a lot. I think he’s been able to do that over the last month still suffering some losses, but he’s still the favorite at the French Open.
EVERT: I also think that he did such a great job in tweaking his game a little bit and hitting flatter and hitting harder and standing closer to the baseline when he wanted to improve his hard court and grass court game. I think that is probably not as effective as three or four years ago when he was really hitting with more trajectory. I think it was coming over the net a little bit higher with some more spin, keeping the players back further. I think flattening out his shots might have something to do with it.
I also think, after watching Djokovic, a couple of the players win a set from him, I think the strategy is different against Nadal. I think they’re starting to hit shorter angles. When I say that, Djokovic can really hit that backhand cross-court right into the service line. His forehand also. They’re getting him off the court. So I just think the strategy maybe with these players, they’re starting to think a little bit more about how they can get him off the baseline, and that might have something to do with it, too.
Q. I wanted to ask about Serena and Nadal and the expectations placed on them. Serena has said she’s not feeling as much pressure to defend her title, isn’t placing as much pressure on herself. Nadal not being the favorite as much, does that help or hurt him? The mental side for both players.
EVERT: I can talk about Serena a little bit. I think she’s peaked pretty well for the French Open. I think after the last two years of her playing more tennis than she’s ever played, I think she came into this year exhausted. I think her priorities really are the Grand Slams this year. I think if she loses in these other tournaments, she shrugs it’s off pretty well. The French seems to be opening up for her. She has an apartment there. She lives there. She practices a lot there. Patrick (Mouratoglou), her coach, is French. She’s had good success there. As long as she’s fit, if she’s healthy, motivated, she’s the one to beat. So far, you know, I very rarely see a Serena Williams that’s not motivated. I think this tournament will motivate her. If she’s healthy and fit, she’s got it under control. She’s learned to play on the clay a lot better from Patrick. She’s improved her defense skills. She’s always had the offense skills. She’s more fit. She’s moving better. She is patient with herself. She doesn’t have to go for the winner on the fourth shot. She can wait eight or nine shots and go for the opening. She’s more intelligent and thinking more clearly on the clay than she ever has. I don’t think she will feel the pressure, I really don’t. She’s played enough tennis. She knows what her place in history is now. She’s gunning for those Grand Slam titles.
McENROE: I would just follow up with that and say I never thought I’d say this. I think clay might actually be Serena’s best surface now. As great as she is on every other surface, obviously in her career she’s certainly been better on the faster courts, but it’s almost like she’s less susceptible to upset on clay now because she’s so consistent, steady. Her mindset is so good, I think she revels with the pressure, especially at the big tournaments. She motivates herself for that. I almost think she’s less susceptible to someone like Lisicki, who go hot at Wimbledon, who out-hit her, I don’t think that can happen to her on clay. Earlier in her career she was more inconsistent. She loves the clay. It’s been a huge part of her motivation the last couple years.
As for the guys, the top men, they seem oblivious to pressure. I don’t think that’s a factor for either Nadal or Djokovic or even Federer for that matter, when he was in his prime, and I think he’s playing awfully well. I think it’s who plays better on the day between these guys. It will be interesting how the draw comes out for the men. Federer has given Djokovic more trouble, at least this year, than Nadal has. It will be interesting to see how that shakes out. I think that will be pretty important on the men’s side, who ends up in which quarter, where Wawrinka is going to be the 3 seed. That could be pretty interesting to see how that plays out.
EVERT: Don’t you think, Patrick, also that it’s tougher to be on the defensive end on a clay court rather than on a hard court? I feel like on a hard court you can neutralize the ball a lot better and get back into playing aggressive tennis. Serena, the first strike of the ball she gets you moving. It’s tougher for the opponent to translate that type of tennis into more aggressive tennis.
EVERT: Let me tell you, this clay is faster, the balls are faster, the racquets are faster, the strings are faster. This surface is not for the faint of heart anymore, like I’m going to stay back at the baseline and get a lot of balls back, like 40 years ago.
McENROE: You got to play offensive, controlled baseline tennis. That’s the best clay court strategy now.
Q. Patrick, what is your take on the 16-year-old out of Maryland, Francis Tiafoe?
McENROE: My take is high on him. I think he’s the real deal. I saw him play out in California a month ago at the Easter Bowl. First time I got to see him play competitively. He’s got the athleticism, the physique. What I really liked about him is I think he’s got a great tennis IQ. He understands the game. He understands how to play. He’s obviously got incredible joy for tennis, which is amazing, which is so great to see. He loves to play. He loves to be out on the court. He’s got a huge smile on his face when he’s walking around. Seems to me he’s really in his element when he’s around tennis, playing tennis. That’s not something you can teach. That’s great to see. He obviously has a great team around him over there in College Park. They’ve done a great job with him.
He’s young obviously. We have a good group, meaning the Americans, kids right at that age at 16. Actually quite a few of them right now are playing in a futures in Spain. We have a group of players and coaches over there.
But I think Francis, he’s definitely got a huge upside. Again, he’s only 16. When we talk about the question, I always get, What’s wrong with American tennis? We talk about that often. One of the things we often say is, We need to get better athletes playing tennis. Guess what, we’ve got a better athlete playing better tennis. This guy is a phenomenal athlete. A lot has to happen for him to get all the way where we think he can go, a lot of steps in the process. But he certainly to me appears to be on the right track.
Q. You don’t have to answer this if you don’t want to, Chrissie. Rory McIlroy decided that he planned on not following through with the marriage (to Caroline Wozniacki).
EVERT: It doesn’t surprise me. I don’t even know them. I look back at Jimmy and I. To look at two players that are in the prime of their career and are striving to be No. 1, don’t see each other. I mean, I was married in my 20s to my tennis. That was the only way I could put all my emotions and energies into that goal.
I was in awe that it worked as long as it did. I can’t believe it. They must be just different kind of people. I understand 100%, you’re married to your career. You’re using your emotions. You’re using the mental capacity that you have. You’re putting everything into it. That’s what it takes to be the best.
Q. Chrissie, you had mentioned Ana Ivanovic earlier. She’s been playing better this year, a little more consistent, on the brink of the top 10 for the first time in five years. Realistically, do you think she can make an assault at the top few spots and win another Grand Slam?
EVERT: I’m so impressed with how she’s playing. I’ve been watching her the last few weeks. She seems to have gotten her serve together. Her serve is winning some free points. She’s really improved that. The backhand has improved. The confidence. She’s a big hitter.
You know, when I look at the top four now — Serena, Li Na, Radwanska, Halep — she could be top four if she continues her run. She won a set from Serena. She beat her at the Australian. She’s beating some pretty good players. I like her attitude out there. You can tell she wants it. As far as winning a Grand Slam, I don’t know. Anything’s possible. I think realistically to be top five would be a better goal for her right now.
Q. 2008, what do you remember about the kind of player she was then?
EVERT: Who did she beat? I don’t remember her beating anybody. I don’t mean to say that negatively, but I don’t think Serena, Venus, Clijsters, Henin. It wasn’t a strong year, period, right?
MODERATOR: She beat Safina in the final, Jankovic to get there, and before that Schnyder.
EVERT: Those players aren’t top-quality players, but they weren’t Serena, Venus, Clijsters, Henin. She took advantage of it and played some good tennis. But she’s a much better player now, much better player now. She’s got much more variety to her game. She’s coming in and volleying. She’s confident. Her serve is better.
She has a Steffi Graf forehand. Steffi would just jump beside that ball and wallop it. I see almost the same type of stroke where she can just go inside-out, down the line, cross-court, and make them all the time. Her backhand has also improved. She’s really pumped up. She wants it. Her game has seemed to come together at the right time. We’ll see what happens at the French. But it seems to have really come together. Whether that’s the new coach, for whatever reason I love her story. She won it, she took a dive, but she kept her nose to the grindstone, tried to keep digging herself out of that hole, and slowly but surely she has now.
Q. Chris, Halep, what is her strength and weakness? What do you see her doing in Paris? Also, you were always known as a great champion with court sense, the ability to read the court. Who has that now among the men and women?
EVERT: Well, let’s talk about Halep. She is a tremendous athlete. Her court coverage. First of all, she doesn’t miss anything. She’s one of the more consistent players. She covers the court great. She, you know, is not intimidated by any player or by pressure whatsoever. So she’s very composed and mature out there. She can transition from defense to offense, you know, really, really well. But I think on the clay, that’s what you need to do. You need to move well and you need to be consistent, yet she still hits a big ball. You got to really earn the point against her. She doesn’t play like Serena Williams where she’s going to hit you off the court. You’ve got to work hard. As far as court sense, that’s a good question. You know, when I look at somebody like a Radwanska, I think she’s got good court sense. She’s obviously very creative and can think ahead two or three shots, has that variety. Help me, Patrick, with this.
McENROE: I mean, nobody has better court sense than the players at the top of the game. To me, I think sometimes the question – and I hear what you’re saying, Chrissie – we immediately go to the people that don’t have power like Radwanska. She’s got great court sense, but she has no power basically. She has to.
Djokovic has unbelievable court sense. So does Federer. So does Serena. I think that’s where Serena really has improved, is her ability to open up the court, see the court. I think the best players have the best court sense and the best ability to open up the court, not just the player that doesn’t have the power.
EVERT: You’re right. I was trying to think of players that had something special, like Martina Hingis had a special gift there. But you’re right. In order to be a top player, you have to have good court sense, you have to know how to open up the court. Patrick is right on that.
Q. If both of you had to pick a player outside the top 20 to get to the semis, who would you say? (men and women)
McENROE: Well, Sloane Stephens is in the top 20 still, so I got to think about it for a second. What about Bouchard? Is she outside of the top 20?
EVERT: No. Flipkens made a good run at Wimbledon last year. She’s 22.
McENROE: I’ll tell you who I like is Caroline Garcia. The French players traditionally on the women’s side haven’t always played their best in front of their home crowd, but I really like her athleticism and her game. She played great in the Fed Cup beating the U.S., so I got to see her there. She was really, really good. I think she’s got the kind of game and athleticism to play well on clay.
EVERT: Where is Madison?
McENROE: Madison is around 40 or so.
EVERT: I’d give Madison a shot. I’d give her a shot.
McENROE: A guy at the moment who is outside the top 20 in the men is Almagro, who obviously is good on clay, beaten Nadal. He has some injury issues. Bautista Agut is a Spanish guy, outsider. On the men, it’s pretty unlikely. To me, Dimitrov in my mind is a little bit of an outsider. He’s a guy who I think could make a big run. I was surprised that Nadal beat him as easily as he did in Rome. I thought Dimitrov was going to give him a big match.
EVERT: What about Cilic?
McENROE: No, I’m not going with that. Not on clay in best-of-five. I’ll tell you who the guy is, Thiem, the young Austrian kid. Steve Johnson had a couple match points against him yesterday in Nice. I think he’s still 19, but he has some major upside. Might be early for him to make that kind of a run at a major, but look out for him.
EVERT: I think my reluctance is I can’t see anybody out of the top 20 reaching the final. I think the top 20 is so tough and so loaded that I can’t see anybody there.
Q. It’s no secret that the Americans consistently struggle on clay. Do you think it’s a matter of improving strategy, mentality, mechanics or all of the above?
EVERT: Patrick, I know you have a lot to say on that, so mine will be short. As in past history, most Americans have been brought up on the hard courts. Most of the Europeans, especially the Spanish players, have been brought up on the red clay. I think you’re brought up on what your national championship is. US Open is hard court, and that’s probably why American players dominate. Most of them coming from California, it was all hard courts. I know now every tennis academy, especially the USTA, they’re putting an emphasis on playing on clay. I grew up on clay, that’s why I had such good footwork. It’s all about formulating footwork, having a little more strategy. It’s not as much about power. But the game has turned into so much power, you need a lot more ingredients on clay than power. Go ahead, Patrick.
McENROE: I think obviously movement is key. What I like to call shot tolerance, which is understanding what shot to hit at the right time. Clay just forces you to make better decisions more often. Quite honestly, you need to hit more balls into the court to win points. That’s just the way it is. Obviously that’s become the way it is on every surface. So when we talk the USTA building a new facility in Florida in a couple years’ time, almost half the courts are going to be clay to help our kids and to help our juniors play on it as young as possible. The clay teaches you itself how to play and how to construct points. As Chrissie said, the more you play on it, and the earlier you play on it, the more you can develop those skills. We’ve got clay at each of our three centers for the USTA now. The kids are spending a lot more time. Once you do that, it’s a mindset for our young pros to go out there and be willing to do what it takes to work hard for each point you’ve got to win.
EVERT: It’s interesting when you look at the clay court players, the players that learned to play tennis on clay, myself and Martina Navratilova, Martina Hingis, Federer, Djokovic, I mean, Nadal, a lot of the players started on clay and excelled on clay at a young age. And from there, branched out, made some adjustments and learned how to play on a faster court. I think that’s easier to do than the other way around where you’re primarily a power player. That’s why it was tough for like a Pete Sampras to win the French. Other players, when they come on, they’re just big power players, it’s harder to learn how to play if you’re a ball-striker, to play on the clay.
I’m a firm believer, and I don’t know why it hasn’t happened earlier than it did, to start more kids on clay.
Q. Patrick, obviously Andy Murray has never won a tournament on clay. What do you make of his chances going in, especially without a coach? There’s a discussion about (your brother) John being his coach.
McENROE: I know they have a very good relationship. I think John in the right situation could be a great coach. The question is, Is he going to be willing to spend the necessary time it would take depending on what Andy is looking for?
Andy has a solid team around him. Of course, Danny who has been with him forever, like his full-time coach or assistant coach when Lendl came in, et cetera. Andy has a great team around him. I don’t expect him to be a real threat to win the French at all. But I think he’ll want to play well there, as he did in Rome.
The best part of his year obviously is the grass, defending his Wimbledon title, then the summer on the hard courts. I think a good result for him would be to make the second week, but I think he’s vulnerable to a lot more players on clay than he is on any other surface.
As far as where his coaching ends up, that’s the $64,000 question. Sounds like from what I’ve heard him say, he’s looking for someone that’s going to be with him for quite some time and be a long-term solution, not do something quick as a part-time Band-Aid.
EVERT: In one sentence, that was the best clay court match I’ve ever seen Andy Murray play. I was so impressed. If he keeps that up, he could be a semifinalist for sure.
Q. On the face of it, there wouldn’t seem to be any particular reason why he couldn’t win on the clay, other than the fact that Nadal tends to win so many of them.
McENROE: He doesn’t generate as much firepower off both wings. There are reasons why he’s not as good on clay other than Nadal and Djokovic. His game is not as suited for clay. It’s more suited for grass with his slice, his ability to counter-punch. A ball that drops in the middle of the court to his backhand side, he doesn’t do as much damage with that shot as Djokovic and Nadal. Not many people do. He doesn’t have what I call easy power, Murray, which you need on clay more so than other surfaces. On the other surfaces, he can use the speed of the court to help his game. It helps him a lot more than other players.
EVERT: His ball being so flat, it doesn’t keep anybody in the backcourt. It doesn’t really hurt anybody.
Patrick, what is the furthest he’s gotten?
McENROE: Semis of the French. He can play on it, but when you compare him to the other guys, and surprisingly he’s never won a title on clay, which I think if he wanted to, he could play some small tournaments and win them, but he hasn’t gone that route.
Q. Do you think he just needs to keep his confidence high ahead of Wimbledon and the U.S. and he shouldn’t be targeting trying to win it?
McENROE: I think he’s going to absolutely use the French as a way to get him going and to get his fitness up and get his back right and get his confidence going for Wimbledon. I mean, obviously the pressure’s off in some way at Wimbledon. But I’m sure walking out at 1 p.m. precisely on that first day will be pretty emotional for him at Wimbledon, and for the crowd. So there will be a lot more expectations on him. He’ll want to really be primed and peaked for Wimbledon.
EVERT: Patrick, when you’re talking about getting past the first week, if he gets past the first week, I think he’s going to take that tournament very seriously.
McENROE: There’s no doubt he’ll take it seriously. There’s a lot more guys I think match up very well against him on clay than on grass.
Q. Patrick, in the vein of long-term wishing better athletes in the U.S. would choose tennis, would you toss out names of American athletes that every sportsfan might know that kind of think might have made an awesome tennis player had they chosen tennis?
McENROE: It’s funny, because when people say that, they say, Imagine if Michael Jordan had taken up tennis. Well, Michael is a little bit too tall. We have 6’7″, 6’8″ players. Some would say LeBron James. Actually he’s too big. I would take somebody who was a great point guard, somebody like Dwyane Wade. Who is the guy from Seattle, Richard Sherman, like a defensive back, extremely mobile. They have some height.
To me the ideal height for a tennis player, a man anyway, is about 6’1″ to 6’3″. So you take someone like Andrew McCutchen, the baseball player, guys that are there kind of size that have that kind of agility and mobility.
The first thing you have to remember, people overlook this, it doesn’t matter how fast you can run or how high you can jump if you actually can’t time the ball. The first thing you need to do is get someone who can actually time the ball and hit it on the center of the racquet when they’re very young. That’s number one. Once you get that, obviously you’d like to see somebody that can move.
I think flexibility is sort of the way the game is going with guys like Djokovic and Dimitrov, Radwanska. You see literally her butt on the ground when she’s hitting half her shots.
I think that’s the way the game is going with the speed and athleticism as opposed to brut strength and force. I would look for an athlete that’s incredibly flexible that could have picked up tennis and had a lean-looking body.
Q. Patrick, looking ahead six weeks after the French and Wimbledon are over, what would you consider a good run for the American men and for the American women with these two Grand Slams coming up?
McENROE: The expectations are obviously higher for the women. I don’t mean obviously just Serena. She’s the huge favorite in both. But I think for Sloane Stephens, I think we’re seeing a lot of positive signs out of Christina McHale, Madison Keys. For me, the younger two, Keys and McHale, I’d love to see one of the them get to the second week of one of these two. Serena, her expectations would be to win both of them.
For our men, I think it’s time to step up. I think some of our younger guys are making the strides. A second week for a couple of them isn’t out of the question. Isner has the ability to do it at both of these occasions. Steve Johnson and Sock are showing some positive signs. I think some of these younger guys are going to step up and make something happen. I think definitely an appearance in the second week for the men would be great.
Q. Sloane Stephens, kind of a tough patch now for a bit?
EVERT: First of all, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a quarterfinalist at Wimbledon. If you remember at Wimbledon last year, Sloane had a good run, and also Madison lost to Radwanska in three sets. Radwanska was really favored to win at that point because everybody else had lost. As far as Sloane, it’s frustrating for all of us. I know Patrick and I, too. It’s frustrating to watch her play because we know what she is capable of. We know the talent that she has. I mean, for me it just seems that she’s taking her time. You know what I’m saying? It’s maybe not the right time right now, although it should be. She doesn’t seem to be putting it all on the line. She doesn’t seem to be playing with a sense of urgency.
The other players, like Bouchard, the other players her age, even younger, she’s kind of lackadaisical, goes in and out of matches. It’s almost like it will happen in her own time. It has to come from within her. No matter what coach she has, what everybody is telling her, I feel she has the type of temperament that when she is ready we’re going to see some brilliance.
McENROE: I think she’s going to turn it around. I think deep within her she’s a competitor, a great competitor. I’ve seen her win a lot of matches where she looked out of it. As Chrissie said, she’s got to make the decision in her own mind, and when she does, look out.
Q. Talk about Madison (Keys) for a minute. Where do you think her game is at now?
EVERT: I think Madison is still a work in progress. Again, she’s young. Can’t expect anything more than that.
She’s at the right place for her age and maturity, emotional maturity, right now. We all see the power. We see the huge serve. I’d like to see a better percentage of big serves because that’s where she’s going to win most of her free points. Her serve is the closest to Serena of any of the players as far as power, placement. I’d like to see a more consistent serve. She’s a big girl, and she’s still a teenager, so she’s working on her moving because she’s grown all of a sudden and developed into a woman. She needs to kind of settle in and working on her movement a little bit. Very much like Serena, once she gets a little more fit, she won’t feel like she has to go for big shots at inopportune times when she’s out of position. Right now to me it’s her moving, but it’s there. She and Sloane to me are the two top American hopefuls.
McENROE: Not a lot to add to that other than her first serve is really big. You’re right, it’s not consistent enough. Her second serve needs to get better. But she wants it. She wants it. She’s working hard. I think she’s got a real desire to get there. As she improves her fitness, which she’s doing, her shot selection is going to improve. It’s naturally going to improve. As that happens, she’s going to be able to do a lot of damage. I think she also has to work on coming forward a little bit more. We saw her and Sloane play doubles in the Fed Cup. They both could use a little work on the net, coming forward. Sloane is a better mover, so she’s going to be able to beat people from the baseline with her movement as well as her power. I’d like to see Madison add the ability to come in and finish some points at the net as well because she’s got a big reach. That’s certainly a part of her game that can improve. The good thing is she’s young. She’s already 40 or so in the world. There’s a lot of things that can get better. That’s a real positive.
EVERT: She’s going at a good pace. It’s almost like two years ago, for her to have a big win wouldn’t have been a good thing. She’s going at a good pace and managing herself really, really well.